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Monthly meeting

Time: February 7, 2012 from 5:30pm to 7:30pm
Location: Community Cafe
Street: 875 West Napa Street
City/Town: Sonoma, CA
Website or Map: http://ccsonoma.com/
Event Type: meeting, social.
Organized By: Greg Rank and Steve Meloan
Latest Activity: Feb 14, 2012

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Event Description

The topic will be about "low-cost country sourcing" of labor. If you've followed the recent news about Apple, Dell, HP and Foxconn, this is relevant. Additionally, many small manufacturers and developers are facing the challenges of on-shore vs. off-shore. Should be an interesting discussion and chance to reconnect with your local community.

Also recommend listening to: Mr. Daisey and the Apple Factory from This American Life. Be sure to listen all the way to the end with Nick Kristof.

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Comment by Joshua Kitchener on February 14, 2012 at 12:04pm

I appreciate the invite, but I don't have time right now to put something like that together. When things change, I'll let you know.

Comment by Greg Rank on February 14, 2012 at 11:14am

Joshua, you sound like an expert who has a lot of diverse experience. Why don't you pick a topic and present it at a 2012 monthly Wired Sonoma meeting?

The context of my presentation was not actually in the slides but it my face to face presentation with about one dozen locals and neighbors who participated in a rich multi-faceted dialogue about off-shoring. It was a fun and informative experience in knowledge sharing. I learned a lot from others. We are looking for more presenters

Comment by Joshua Kitchener on February 14, 2012 at 10:59am

Also Greg, I forgot to mention: I was in the House Gallery for the vote in NAFTA.

It was an interesting evening.

Comment by Greg Rank on February 11, 2012 at 9:43am

Good to know, thanks Josh

Comment by Joshua Kitchener on February 11, 2012 at 9:27am

Thanks Greg,

With all respect, this presentation is just a bunch of photos and random facts without any real context. No corporation or professional organization would take a Powerpoint like this seriously.

For example, your chart which shows suicide rates merely shows that the same countries with high suicide rates are also manufacturing centers. But correlation is not causation. The people in those countries probably have a lower standard of living overall...

Comment by Greg Rank on February 10, 2012 at 3:48pm

Here is the correct link:

http://gregrank.us/downloads/NAFTA.pdf

Comment by Joshua Kitchener on February 10, 2012 at 3:45pm

Hey Greg,

Thanks, but your link is 404.

Comment by Joshua Kitchener on February 9, 2012 at 3:33pm

I just wanted to mention:

I welcome the new spotlight on overseas manufacturing. But people act as though it is something new, or unique to Apple. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Manufacture has always been ugly. If you've ever worked in a factory, you know what I mean. The ugly face of industry forced the first labor unions into existence.

Manufacture has moved heavily into China in recent years. Open relations allow US companies to exploit the Chinese labor base, while previously they were more reliant on Taiwan, a US ally.

The bottom line is, I doubt anyone on this site is old enough to claim that they haven't used an item made in a factory line, every single day of their lives. Every shopping bag, every chair, every item you don't even think about, was made in a factory and probably in conditions quite similar to Foxconn.

Comment by Greg Rank on January 31, 2012 at 7:34pm

In terms of the kitchen, my wife too will join us for meeting and food (2) for us

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